Monday, December 16, 2013

jewish state




It was a mistake not to insist on recognition of Israel being a Jewish state in the negotiations with the Palestinians in the 1990s.

http://www.meforum.org/3695/palestinian-red-line

forward to tzipi livni!



Wednesday, December 4, 2013

Tuesday, November 26, 2013

jewish state

http://www.truetorahjews.org/livni

prosor

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2013/11/another-great-speech-by-ron-prosor-at-un.html#.UpUKZ-KKKMQ

General Assembly resolution 181 passed in 1947 speaks of the creation of a “Jewish State” no fewer than 25 times. And yet today, 66 years later, have you heard Palestinian leaders utter the term ‘Jewish state’? Of course not.

levy commission

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2012/07/english-translation-of-legal-arguments.html#.UpT2vOKKKMQ

Wednesday, November 20, 2013

Re: naftali and amanpour

howie,

forward to all!

http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/11/19/israels-econ-minister-bennett-schools-cnns-amanpour-over-use-of-term-occupied-territories-video/

read the talkbacks as well!

On 11/20/2013 3:00 PM, Michael Wise wrote:
> http://www.israpundit.com/archives/63591737
>
> i know you do not like bennett.
> too honest.
> but listen till the end and smile wide!!
>
> then forward to tzipi livni. she loves the word occupation and refuses
> to demand that the PA recognize as a pre-condition israel as a jewish
> state !
>
> and then forward to AIPAC! and the ADL...
>
> mike
>

naftali and amanpour

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/63591737

i know you do not like bennett.
too honest.
but listen till the end and smile wide!!

then forward to tzipi livni. she loves the word occupation and refuses
to demand that the PA recognize as a pre-condition israel as a jewish
state !

and then forward to AIPAC! and the ADL...

mike

Monday, November 18, 2013

Fwd: where is tzipi?




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: where is tzipi?
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:19:30 -0500
From: Michael Wise <mlwise@gmail.com>
Reply-To: mlwise@gmail.com
To: undisclosed-recipients:;


> "Come to the Israeli Knesset and I'll come to Ramallah," Netanyahu   > said, referring to Abbas's Palestinian Authority headquarters. "Get up   > on this platform and recognize the historical truth: the Jews have a   > nearly 4,000-year-old link to the land of Israel. The Jews are a   > people with a right to self-determination," he said.    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174168#.Uopnh-KKKi0    remarkable. in abu Mazen's face!!    love it!      


Saturday, October 26, 2013

Wednesday, August 21, 2013

eldad coming around

more people now understand that the "jordanian" option (let the Judea Arabs become citizens of Jordan) is absurd.

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/
.premium-1.542196

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a war of religion, not territory

The conflict is a clash of ideologies, and such a conflict can't be solved by drawing lines on a map.

By Aryeh Eldad | Aug. 19, 2013 | 8:44 AM
 

Anyone who has ever suffered from a sore throat and fever and didn't get well within two days surely went to see a doctor. The doctor took a light and tongue depressor, saw a pair of red, swollen tonsils with white dots, and concluded that the patient had a throat infection. And even though such infections are usually viral rather than bacterial, the doctor prescribed antibiotics to be on the safe side. The patient took them (or didn't), and usually got well in a few days.

If not, the doctor could try a different antibiotic, and then a third and a fourth, until the patient died of old age. But any reasonable doctor would stop and ask himself: What's wrong here? Why is the patient not getting any better despite my wonderful treatment?

The answer is logical: a mistaken diagnosis. That would explain the lack of response to the treatment, and the frustration.

I wouldn't have bothered you with this introduction about bacterial throat infections (somewhat anachronistic, I know, since nowadays there are throat cultures) if we didn't find ourselves in this very situation in the diplomatic sphere. The war between Jews and Arabs in the Land of Israel has been going on for more than 100 years, and most onlookers, analysts and mediators are convinced that it's a territorial conflict: Jews and Arabs are fighting over the same piece of land, so the logical solution is to divide the land.

This is a reasonable assumption, and therefore (and also for other colonialist reasons), Churchill came to the Land of Israel/Palestine in 1922 and divided the land. He gave the three-fourths of it east of the Jordan River to the Arabs, while the rest remained a British Mandate for establishing a Jewish national home.

The Arabs weren't enthusiastic, and their response has gone down in history as the 1929 Arab riots. After that, the British sent additional committees that proposed additional divisions of the land, based on various maps. But every effort ended in a bloodbath: waves of terrorism, "incidents" (aka riots), wars and intifadas. Some 23,000 Jews were killed and more than 100,000 Arabs, but no statesman ever stopped and asked himself why every attempt at dividing the land merely increased the war and bloodshed. The answer, of course, is a mistaken diagnosis.

The conflict isn't territorial (even though it has many territorial symptoms, and we fight over every acre and every house), but a war of religion, a clash of ideologies. And such a conflict can't be solved by drawing lines on a map. To Muslims, the Land of Israel will forever be waqf land – land that is part of a Muslim religious trust. And even David Ben-Gurion, who wasn't "religious," appeared before the Peel Commission in 1937 and brandished a Bible as the source of our absolute right to the Land of Israel.

But despite this, all the "peacemakers" among us keep prescribing the same medicine of "dividing the land" for the wrong disease. Even today, the only diplomatic plan on the table is negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, yet this is the one that has failed time and again.

Next week, a plan called "Two states for two peoples on two sides of the Jordan – is this alternative feasible?" will be placed on the negotiating table. Granted, this will happen only at a conference organized by Professors for a Strong Israel, which will take place at the Menachem Begin Heritage Center in Jerusalem. But the conference will hold an in-depth discussion on the following topic: When the "Arab Spring" reaches Jordan, that country will become a Palestinian nation-state. Thus even if the conflict isn't solved, at least a new factor will have entered the diplomatic equation, which is currently stuck in a blind alley. [end]


peace

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.542319


Making peace by hook or by crook

It’s time to learn from the long line of failed peace attempts by leaders who didn’t have the support of an Israeli majority.

By | Aug. 19, 2013 | 12:48 PM | 2



President Clinton presiding over the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993. Photo by AP
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Twenty years ago, on September 13, 1993, Israel signed the Oslo Accords with the Palestine Liberation Organization. The handshake on the White House lawn between Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat, dressed in a military uniform of his own design, is unforgettable. It earned them both (along with Shimon Peres) the Nobel Peace prize.

But, as we have learned, Nobel Peace prizes can be deceiving – peace between Israel and the Palestinians is still in abeyance. The agreement brought Arafat and his cohorts from Tunis to Gaza and then to Ramallah and Jerusalem. The man some maintain is responsible for some of the worst atrocities committed since World War II was anointed by Israel as a partner for peace. All appeared to be forgiven, if not forgotten.

Ten days later the Knesset debated the agreement signed in Washington. The no-confidence motion proposed by the opposition was defeated by a vote of 61-50 with eight abstentions. On September 19, 1993 the Labor party daily, Davar, headlined that day’s issue as follows: “The Labor government cooked up a deal to postpone the trial of Aryeh Deri in exchange for the support of Shas for the Oslo agreement.”

Then, on October 9, 1995 the Knesset also approved the agreement known as Oslo II, by a vote of 61-59, after three members of the Tsomet faction were enticed to defect from their party and support the agreement. A Mitsubishi car for one of its members seemed to have played a part in these shenanigans.

It is highly questionable whether a bare majority and the methods that were used to obtain it, in particular, can be considered sufficient to ratify so far-reaching an agreement. It may be legal, but it is hardly legitimate. The standard set by the U.S. Constitution for the ratification of international agreements is a two-thirds majority. But the supporters of the Oslo Accords were determined to arrange for their passage “by hook or by crook,” bypassing democratic niceties. The end justified the means. The people of Israel were to be force-fed peace.

Next in line was Ehud Barak. He feverishly began his quest for peace after assuming the office of prime minister in the 1999 election. He first directed his attention to Hafez Assad, the Syrian dictator. Even though he involved U.S. President Bill Clinton and was prepared to turn the Golan Heights over to Syria, no agreement was reached -- fortunately.

Then he turned his attention to Yasser Arafat. At Camp David in 2000, under Clinton’s auspices, intent on ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict once and for all, Barak offered concessions that went beyond anything Rabin envisioned. But his government was on its last legs. He lost the majority support in the Knesset and then even majority support in his own cabinet.

Disregarding the fact that the Knesset had already initiated legislation for early elections, and that the polls indicated he was going to lose by a wide margin, Barak soldiered on offering Arafat concession after concession. Facing certain defeat in the upcoming vote, Barak had no moral right to offer these concessions on behalf of Israel. But his supporters insisted that he had every right to do so. It may have been legal, but it was certainly not legitimate. And the concessions were not enough to satisfy Arafat.

Then came Ehud Olmert’s turn. Starting with a pretty solid coalition, which included Shas and Avigdor Liberman’s Yisrael Beiteinu, he embarked on his quest for peace at the Annapolis conference in November 2007. No sooner than he made it clear he was prepared to divide Jerusalem, Shas left the coalition. When Olmert continued negotiations with Mahmoud Abbas, letting it be known that he was prepared for major territorial concessions and the return of some Palestinian refugees to Israel, his coalition fell apart.

While his coalition crumbed around him and he disregarded calls for his resignation and early elections, Olmert obstinately continued negotiating and finally presented Abbas with a map defining his proposal for Israeli territorial concessions before he was forced to resign. He wanted to force peace down the throat of the Israeli people no matter what.

This is no way to make peace. Only if a solid majority of Israelis back the concessions the government is prepared to offer can the peace process proceed. Manipulative political tactics and sleight of hand will only lead to frustrations on both sides, and possibly unleash renewed violence. Hopefully Benjamin Netanyahu understands that.

Sunday, August 4, 2013

one state

January 16, 2007

Israel, From the Mediterranean to the Jordan

By Ted Belman (Originally published in Aug ’05)

President Moshe Katsav in a recent interview underscored that, more then any time in the past, the upcoming election will be a referendum on Israel’s borders and so it will.

All parties are prepared to withdraw to varying degrees and on different preconditions. In effect, Labour and Kadima accept the two-state solution as envisioned by the Roadmap and Likud is paying lip service to it because its preconditions are unlikely to be fulfilled.

The desire to withdraw is driven by a widely disseminated demographic myth that the Arabs outnumber Jews west of the Jordan. Most people are unaware of a New Demographic Study completed this year which concluded that there are only 1.4 million Arabs in Judea and Samaria of which it is estimated between 100,000 and 300,000 have already infiltrated into Israel. If Israel were to annex these territories, the Jews would constitute 67% of the combined population. This is a percentage that has remained constant since ’67.

Furthermore in embracing the two-state solution no one seems to factor in the Looming Demographic Catastrophe thereafter.

    “Once a provisional Palestinian State is declared on the West Bank, 500,000 Arabs will be immediately and easily absorbed. As the Arab population in that Palestinian State grows, Israeli Arabs will recognize the long-term trends and the ultimate Palestinian demographic dominance of the area between the Jordan River and the Sea and they will begin to exert increasing pressure on the Israeli government. Demands for special rights, rejection of the Jewish State and the wish to be identified with their brothers and cousins living on the other side of the Wall will mount; identification with Palestinian nationalism, flag and anthem will grow. The ongoing infiltration of illegal immigrants into Israel will expand.

    “A demand that Israel relinquish all territory captured through “military adventurism and aggression” will be heard throughout the world and in the UN. The green line will be identified not as an international border but solely as the 1948-1949 armistice line. No formal treaty ever recognized and no Arab entity ever accepted Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish State. No Palestinian Arab entity ever relinquished claims to its part of the 1947 partition plan, or indeed to all of “Palestine”. The international community, especially in light of the long-term claims that Israel forcefully evicted civilians from their homes in 1948, will decide to no longer recognize the acquisition of land through military conquest. Pressures will increase on Israel to cede control of parts of the Galilee and Negev to the Palestinian State.”

The One Jewish State Plan

In recognition of the above, Dr. Michael Wise, a co-author of the Demographic Study, proposed a Jewish One State Plan not to be confused with a secular Bi-National State.

A Bi-National State would only come about as a result of a negotiated Constitution which would include the right of return for Arabs. Dr. Wise’s plan will be unilaterally created.

According to this Plan, Israel would formally annex the territory west of the Jordan River exclusive of Gaza and make it an integral and irreversible part of Israel. Arabs residents would then be offered options regarding citizenship and or permanent residency which will be phased in over a fifteen year period to allow for adjustment to the mentality of the somewhat hostile population and to facilitate a smooth transition. The PA would be dissolved and all members of terrorist organizations would be expelled.

Dr Wise goes so far as to recommend a subsidy for all those choosing to emigrate.

To ensure Israel remains a Jewish state, he recommends a new constitution which would establish a Senate, like in the US, comprised of 60 representatives from 15 districts, 4 of which would be predominantly Arab and the remaining 11 would be Jewish. Just as in the US, where each state has varying populations, there is no need for these districts to be equal in population. Yet such a division will create Arab representation proportionate to their population. Matters of national concern and security will require the approval of both Houses. The Knesset will be reduced to 60 seats. The intent of the Constitution would be to preserve the Jewish nature of the state.

To affect this plan, Israel would have to

    # adopt a new constitution which would inter alia create the Senate and reform the courts
    # formally annex the territories
    # dismantle the PA
    # outlaw all terrorist organizations
    # outlaw all hate speech including anti-semitic speech
    # outlaw the promotion of martyrdom in any way
    # disband and disarm all Arab security forces
    # outlaw all guns and ammunition and explosives in unlicensed private hands
    # replace all Arab textbooks
    # provide welfare for all Arab residents in the absence of international aid. (This would be a lot cheaper then spending $25 billion to evacuate 80,000 Israelis)

A self-governing, autonomous political unit

An alternative to such a constitution would be to provide Palestinian Arabs with a self-governing, autonomous political unit similar to Puerto Rico. Autonomy was provided for in the Camp David Accord and by the Oslo Accords. The Palestinian Mandate created by the League of Nations and inherited by the UN reserves to the Arabs “civil and religious rights” but not political rights.

“Palestine”, to be or not to be.

The Roadmap provides for

    “A two state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will only be achieved through an end to violence and terrorism, when the Palestinian people have a leadership acting decisively against terror and willing and able to build a practicing democracy based on tolerance and liberty, and through Israel’s readiness to do what is necessary for a democratic Palestinian state to be established, and a clear, unambiguous acceptance by both parties of the goal of a negotiated settlement as described below.”

These preconditions will never be satisfied and we all know it.

The Arab objective, back to 1920, has been the destruction of the Zionist project. This objective is enshrined in the Charters of the PLO and Hamas or is reflected in the constant incitement and vilification of Israel and Jews in the Arab schools, media and mosques. Given the state of the Arab world and its support for terrorism, there is absolutely no reason to believe or even hope that “Palestine “ would abandon this objective or the use of terror and incitement to achieve it.

It would be suicidal for Israel to allow itself to be surrounded by Hamas on the west, Hezbollah on the north and the Fatah on the east. Iraq, Jordan and Syria are all unstable and Iran is building the Bomb. This is no time to add to the instability by creating the 23rd Arab state.

It is certain that “Palestine” will not be demilitarized whether the PA agrees to it or not. Just look how the US is forcing Israel to open a deep seaport and airport in Gaza,

The PA has shown time and time again that it will not abide by any agreement it makes.

Due to the endemic corruption among the ruling elite, the lack of natural resources, the absolute dedication to create a culture of hate, the rule by gun and not by law, the devotion to the cause of destroying Israel rather then of building “Palestine”, it is certain that “Palestine” will be a failed state.

Both “Palestine” and Israel would share the available water resources which are in short supply. “Palestine” could not be counted to abide by her agreement and would invite all the refugees to return thereby increasing their need for water.

“23 Reasons” by Dr Joseph Norland makes the case that the Arabs in Judea, Shomron and Gaza have no right to a state at all.

Creating “Palestine” would be worst of all possible solutions.

Demographic Considerations

    “Arab fertility rates are high but declining. The current population of Israel is 6.9 million, of which 1.1 million are Moslem Arabs. There are fewer than 1.4 million Moslem Arabs in the West Bank (www.pademographics.com). If half of the West Bank Arabs eventually become citizens, there would be a maximum of 1.8 million Moslem Arab citizens out of a total population of 8.3 million. Creation of 4 Moslem Districts out of 15 Districts is more than representative.

    “The One State Plan will provide the opportunity for all people living in Israel including those living in Moslem Districts to prosper and receive the benefits offered by the Modern State of Israel. Modernization and westernization will influence birth rates.

    “In the One State Plan, many new factors will affect emigration and immigration. A peaceful and stable Israel will attract new Jewish immigrants. Arabs who prefer to live in an Arab state or in a Moslem republic will have the opportunities to do so. Subsidies will be available to Arabs who choose to relocate. Government policies will encourage reduction in birth rates following guidelines set down by international organizations and successfully implemented in several neighboring states including Iran and Egypt. Large family subsidies would be available through private entities.” Dr. M. Wise

Impediments

The Arab League and the countries that make it up will howl like hell. They will argue that such action violates the Roadmap (true), that it violates Res 242 which emphasized “the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war “, that the expanded Israel will be an apartheid state and so on. They will also continue to try to ferment trouble and encourage an “insurgency”, such as many of them are doing in Iraq, to destabilize Israel’s efforts to make the absorption of Palestinian Arabs work.

The Palestinian Arabs will have to decide whether to participate in the solution or be part of the insurgency. Israel must prove that the future is with the solution and not with the insurgency. Anyone participating in the insurgency will be killed in battle or expelled on capture. Anyone complicit will also be expelled. Israel will succeed in quelling the insurgency whereas the US is struggling to do so, because Israel has better control of its borders, better intelligence and a much smaller territory to manage.

This battle will be greatly assisted by the termination of all forms of incitement and propaganda. Israel must insist on this and must strengthen and enforce its laws on treason, incitement and the like. Once again anyone violating these laws must be incarcerated or expelled.

Hezbollah will step up their activities under instructions from Iran and Israel will finally make good on its warnings. A devastating blow must be delivered. Israel must proceed boldly and reestablish the IDF as a deterrance.

As always the Arabs will be aided and abetted by the EU. But the real question is, what will the US do. Will it make do with protestations or will it really try to stop this plan with economic sanctions and mandatory resolutions at the Security Council. It will be under intense pressure by Old Europe and the Arab League to do so. In all probability Israel will have to rally the American people including Congress and Senate to support it and forestall the State Department actions to prevent it. Keep in mind that such an effort will take place in an election year in the US which will auger well for Israel.

The UN will vociferously resist the unilateral annexation because it would be a direct assault on its role in the creation of a Palestinian state. Entire UN bureaucracies depend on it. It won’t go quietly into the night. The UN resolutions which just passed give further evidence that Israel should not play into their hands. Israsel must turn its back on the UN.

The anti –Israel coalition who see Israel as the bad guy will be enraged because Israel will be consolidating its gains.

Finally the refugees will finally have to be dealt with rather then to be kept in perpetual limbo as a means to undermine Israel.

The best antidote to all this opposition is success. Israel must proceed boldly and unapologetically.

Benefits

The benefits of such a Plan highly recommend it in place of the unworkable Two State solution.

Simply put, it would end the occupation, end the incitement, end the border dispute, end the need to “deal” with Jerusalem, end the need for population transfers, end the conflict experienced by Arab Israelis vis a vis their Arab brethren in Judea and Samaria, solve the viability problem and allow Israel to get on with building a Jewish democratic state, from the Mediterranean to the Jordan.

Posted by Ted Belman @ 2:56 pm | 6 Comments »

6 Responses to Israel, From the Mediterranean to the Jordan

  1. Ed D says:

    Dr. Wise is my kind of man. Not only does he defy the US and the UN, but he gives clear and factuous reasons for doing so.

    Regarding the US, I quote from an event dealing with Prime Minister Menachem Begin. A US Senator said: “Don’t tell us that we can’t question your actions, Mr. Prime Minister. We’er footing the bill.”

    Begin replied: “Don’t threaten us with cutting off your aid. It will not work. I am not a Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with 3,700 years of civilized history. Nobody came to our aid when we were dying in the gas chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we were striving to create our country. We paid for it. We fought for it. We died for it. We will stand by our principles. We will defend them. And, when necessary, we will die for them again with or without your aid”.

    Now is the time for ALL Jews to stand for their independence and for their freedom. It might not come cheaply; however, when it’s all done, we Jews will still be around.

  2. Shlomo says:

    What chance of acceptance does Dr. Michael Wise’s plan have in Israel? Is there an organization aggressively working on this idea? This is the best plan I have heard so far from anyone.

  3. RandyTexas says:

    The plan would be a hard sell to people who have a western mind-set based on civil liberties.
    We’re talking about limiting free speech, denying certain rights, outlawing the right to bear arms, censoring books, etc.

    These type of things would concern a great deal of people Democratic societies.

    I did remember something however, said by John Adams which made me think that you cannot always use the same set of laws in every situation. This is what John Adams said about the US Constitution:

    “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.” -John Adams

    If this be so, Westerners would be in err who would accuse Israel of human or civil rights violations based only on the fact that Israel does things differently than what we in the West are accustomed to.

    For although Palestinians may be religious, it is in a way that is is directly the opposite of what Adams was speaking of. Adams referrs to religion as a restraining force which bridles “human passions.” Islam is human passions unleashed and unrestrained. It is the exact opposite of Judeo-Christian religions Adams is referring to. As far as morality being the other necessary element, not very many Palestinians have that either at this point in time.

    What all this means is that some civil rights in the region may have to work their way up to Western levels over time rather than being thrown out to be trampled all over.

  4. Ted Belman says:

    There is nothing undemocratic about the Plan. All the laws proposed are common throug out the west.

    But who is to say that israel must do things like multicultural societies do. israel is entitled to be a nation state.

  5. RandyTexas says:

    But who is to say that israel must do things like multicultural societies do. israel is entitled to be a nation state

    That’s part of the point I was attempting to make. Any Constitution, rights, laws, etc. must take into account the unique circumstances and factors of a particular society. There are basic rights and laws that should apply to every society (e.g. murder, theft, etc.)but there are a whole host of other laws that could vary from society to society be different but yet be right for that society.

    It is human nature when people don’t do things just like we do to think they are wrong but what works for us may need modifications in a different society. In the case of Israel they just need to find what works for them since in the end whatever they do the same group of naysayers will say it is wrong.

  6. Bill Narvey says:

    No country has to give primacy to multicultural ideology as a fundamental value that defines a nation’s character and the standard by which a nation’s laws must conform.

    It is a matter of choice or for some weaker nations, a choice that is forced on them by circumstance, by a desire to seek commonality with the trend of the more powerful or majority of Western nations that have moved to greater or lesser extent to adopt multicultural ideology and by stronger multicultural nations that expressly or impliedly demand or expect that in return for whatever alliance or support given, the weaker nation such as Israel will seek to become at least as multicultural as it needs to be to ensure that alliance or support will continue.

    So it has been with Israel which has adopted multiculturalism in considerable measure.

    Since its inception, Israel has had to work with or around the double standard the world imposed upon it, even before multiculturalism influenced the majority of Western nations. For Israel, multiculturalism is just one more feature to its being forced to pay heed to the will of the majority of Western nations vis a vis Israel and pay heed to the expectations of America, Israel’s primary supporter.

    Israel to this day is much concerned with the optics of their actions, especially when it comes to dealing with the Palestinians, along both peaceful and war paths. Whether it comes to encouraging peace talks or deciding whether to take retaliatory action to yet another Palestinian attack, Israel has been forced to measure its response to Palestinian terrorism or restrain itself from taking any action at all so as to meet the double standard the world imposes on her and avoid world condemnations and the consequences that flow from that.

    The double standard of course is set so high, it is infrequent that Israel is able to reach it, Israel recives far more condemnation then applause for its actions.

    One aspect of the double standard Israel is being forced to live with is that the West has turned a blind eye to the Muslim world wanting their world free of Jews, yet the West has always demanded that Israel accept Arabs as citizens and have pushed for Israel to recognize the non existant right of return Palestians demand and accept to live in their midst even more Arab-Palestinians, some or most of whom would be a potential threat to the State of Israel.

    The Mike Wise One State Solution, apart from including a suggestion that Palestinians/Arabs might be induced by money or other benefits to emigrate from the expanded land of Israel, still pays heed to the double standard imposed on Israel.

    Israel’s entitlement to be a nation state was from the beginning at the pleasure of the West in 1947 when the UN Partition Resolution was finally passed, not without great difficulty. Israel’s continued existence has continued to depend on the pleasure of the West which for some western nations has been lost and for others that pleasure is increasingly in decline. Even as regards the pleasure of America as regards Israel, that pleasure sometimes seems equivocal, but for now remains strong enough.

    The success of any one or two state solution should the pleasure of the West for Israel’s existence further decline, greatly depends on just how strong Israel can become to survive on its own in the Muslim Middle East that for now looks like it will be a region eternally hostile to Israel.

    Israel must find a way to significantly blunt the world’s double standard imposed on it or render it irrelevant by becoming a powerhouse nation in the region that can do just fine on its own, if it had to come to that. In such case, Israelis truly would have a choice to be or not to be guided by multicultural ideologies.

    Failing that, Israel will always be under the thumb of the rest of the world and its continued existence always in peril from one grave risk or another. That will be so whether the peace Israel is forced to accept is the two state solution or Israel can find the way and the wherewithal to get the West to go along with it in the opposite direction and somehow find its peace and strength in a one state solution, which rest assured the West would not go along with unless such one state solution was so conceived as to not compromise the interests of the Palestinians, the Arabs and the West. That is difficult to envision.

    Of course circumstances could change, such as an Iranian attack on Israel or vice versa that ignites a Middle Eastern war. Such war, especially if it draws Western forces in to align with Israel against the Muslims and that war is decisively won by Israel and the West, that would ultimately change the landscape, geographically, politically and economically. In such scenario, the West would finally see that it is Israel’s strength and dominance in the region that assures stability and protection of Western interests in the region.

    Such clash of civilizations might go further however and force the West to finally defeat all faces of radical Islam and assure Western dominance as well. In such case, if the Muslim world holds true to form, they can stew on their victimhood and choke on their hatreds of the West and non-Muslims for the next millenium, but at least neither Israel nor the West will for a very long time have to live under a toxic cloud of radical and imperialistic Islam.

Saturday, July 20, 2013

EU not to blame!

shabvuah tov.

http://israelbehindthenews.com/bin/content.cgi?ID=5659&q=1

Israel Resource Review
 
The EU is not to Blame
By David Bedein
timesofisrael.com Fri Jul 19 2013

There is no reason to blame the EU for initiating the boycott of Israel's Jewish communities in areas acquired by Israel following the 1967 war.

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-eu-is-not-to-blame/

Neither anti-antisemitism nor anti-Zionism motivate the policy that the EU has just enacted., to cut off all ties with the the Jewish communities who reside in the Old City of Jerusalem, the Jordan Valley, the Dead Sea, the Golan, or in Judea and Samaria.

Ever since joining the informal EU-Israel Press Forum in 2002, our news agency and research center interacted with all of the European consulates who are based in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria.

We continually interview these consuls concerning their policies towards Israel, the Palestinian Authority and UNRWA.

The Israeli government maintains no ties whatsoever with European consuls, whose primary focus is the Palestinian Authority,

These key influential European consuls, who influence key policy decisions concerning areas beyond the 1967 lines. are lobbied by all levels of the Palestinian Authority and by tens of Israeli NGO's who oppose the presence of Jewish communities in areas acquired by Israel in the wake of the 1967 war - including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem.

In that context, Israeli NGO's overwhelm the European consuls with the specious idea that Jewish settlement in areas taken by Israel would constitute a "war crime",

The concept of a boycott of products that emanate from Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria was conceived of by two Israeli organizations who defined themselves as peace advocates - Peace Now and Gush Shalom - while receiving funding from these European consuls.

Our agency has witnessed and reported that the leadership NGO's, also operating with EU funding, such as the Peres Center for Peace, the Economic Cooperation Foundation headed by Yossi Beilin,, the New Israel Fund and the Charles Bronfman Foundation, also known as the CRB Foundation, have all given credence to the EU notion that Israeli Jewish communities beyond the 1967 lines constitute no less than a "war crime".

While Israeli lawyers from these Israeli NGO's brief European consuls in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria, the Israeli government will not communicate with these EU reps.

The EU consulates are left with one opinion: that the Israeli presence beyond 1967 lines constitutes a "crime against humanity.

For years, our agency has asked the Israeli prime minister's office, foreign minister's office, Defense Minister's office and Justice minister's office to provide diplomatic missions on Jerusalem with a clear, resolute policy statement which affirms Israel's legal right to settle its citizens in areas acquired after the 1967 war, to which there is no response.

European consuls whom we interact with are left with the legal assessment that they hear from Peace Now,Gush Shalom the Peres Center for Peace, the Economic Cooperation Foundation, the New Israel Fund and the CRB Foundation, which is that "Israeli settlement activity is illegal", which no Israeli government agency is ready to contradict.

The EU consuls fall victim to Israeli NGo's, who present themselvs as patriotic Israelis, while manipulating consuls to join them in opposing Israeli policies that they oppose.

Do not point a finger at the EU.

Blame the government of Israel, which will not defend a patriotic policy - to return the people of Israel to their homeland.